Showing posts with label naturalism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label naturalism. Show all posts

Monday, April 25, 2016

New Apologetics Class!

Trinity Baptist College students, are you looking for an elective credit online course this summer? The Intro to Apologetics class might be for you! It’s eight weeks, online, and involves watching brief lectures, discussion forums, reading, and a couple of writing assignments. The assignments and videos are all designed to help you understand how to defend the faith, and offer positive arguments both for God’s existence and Christianity as a whole.
We are also going to look at various ways the Christian can do apologetics, and practical ways you can engage in culture and the public square. The class starts May 9th, so you’ll want to act fast!

There may be a possibility of auditing the course as well, even if you are not currently a TBC student. For that possibility, you’ll want to check with academicoffice@tbc.edu. TBC’s website can be found at http://www.tbc.edu. I look forward to seeing you there!

Monday, October 6, 2014

What Would it Take for You to Become a Christian?

So what would it take for you, if you are not a believer, to become a Christian? What should it take for you to take that step and believe? I think that many people aren’t too interested in believing if only it were rationally defensible. Instead, in online conversations at least, one often hears the line, “I would love to be convinced that there’s a God.” What, precisely, does this mean? Does this mean something like “I have evidence which I cannot deny that entails the conclusion that the Christian God exists”? If so, that’s bordering on “I won’t believe unless I’m coerced” (unless, of course, one holds that belief in God can be chosen—which is usually the opposite of what many Internet atheists argue). But surely there’s some epistemic virtue in being open to the evidence such that if belief in Christianity were to be rationally defensible, one would become a Christian Why do I say that?

Because it shows that one actually has a desire to become a Christian. Forgive me, but I’m very skeptical when a skeptic asserts that he’d really love to become a Christian, but . . . . As a matter of fact, I think that, most times, he really doesn’t want to be a Christian at all. He’d rather rig the game so that unless he absolutely has to become a Christian, he won’t. I’m not saying there are no genuine seekers, and I’m not saying all atheists are like this. Just many, perhaps most, of the Internet atheists.

So where am I going with all of this? Well, if you are not a Christian, then I think you ought to be open to the possibility of becoming one. More than that, I think that if it were to be shown to you that accepting the truth of Christianity would be rational, then you ought to give becoming a Christian serious consideration. Why? Because not only does it show you are sincerely seeking, it shows that you care about morality, ethics, and questions surrounding ultimate meaning and purpose.


It evinces a desire to acquire the truth, and to deal with oneself honestly for what he or she really is, deep down, where no one can see. It shows a willingness to move beyond the puerile meme culture that decides truth for the masses, and a step away from the “One-Liners as Scholarship Club.” Beneath all the misplaced anger lies either a willingness to explore intellectually, or a desire to destroy intellectually. What are you willing to do? Only you can decide that. If you ever have any questions, objections, or concerns, and you’re willing to become a Christian or give it serious consideration if it were shown to be rationally permissible for you to do so, then I’m always here to listen!

Sunday, September 15, 2013

What happens if I think I believe in evolution?


Suppose one considers a subset of his own beliefs: 1. God exists. 2. The Bible precludes theistic evolution. Now let’s further suppose that he holds (1) with a strength of .9 probability (that is, he is quite sure, if not 100% certain, that God exists) and holds (2) at .7 (that is, he is reasonably sure of its truth, though less so than [1]). Now this gentleman comes to believe, through arguments and evidence (whether good arguments and evidence are involved will be irrelevant in this case), this claim: 3. Evolution is true.

These truths are actually in tension; if (3) is true, then it is not the case that both (1) and (2) are true, provided a further claim: 4. The Bible is not mistaken with respect to (2). Now beliefs (1-4) form a contradictory set. If all four statements are correct, then whatever accounts for evolution is not theistic; but if nontheistic evolution is true, then God had nothing whatsoever to do with the origin of life (otherwise, it just would be a particular form of theistic evolution). In that case, arguably, God does not exist. So, the man in question should jettison (1), correct? Not at all.

Suppose the man holds (3) at .8, and he holds (4) at .9. In that case, he believes most strongly that God exists and that the Bible is not mistaken in its teachings concerning evolution and creation. But notice what the man holds to be the least plausible: the claim that the Bible precludes theistic evolution. In this particular case, he ought to give up his particular interpretation of the passage, and thus hold (1, 3, and 4). Or perhaps he, upon re-evaluation, comes to doubt (3) itself, so that evolution is the belief dropped.

My point is that even if evolution comes to be believed by the Christian, he need not jettison his belief in God. This is not merely pragmatic: there are very good reasons to hold that God exists (arguments for his existence, for example). It wouldn’t do to suggest that “evolution is true” is a defeater for the kalam cosmological argument, or moral arguments for God’s existence. Nor would evolution’s truth count against the strength with which the man held the other beliefs (that is, the ones that are compatible). Instead, other considerations ought to be brought to bear (such as the individual reasons for holding each of the other beliefs). We may discover, in fact, that we hold all of the other beliefs higher than we do evolution’s truth, so that evolution, while initially quite plausible, is nonetheless the belief discarded.

Too many Christians hold a “reverse confirmation bias,” where virtually any claim made by a skeptic counts as evidence against Christianity if those claims are even remotely plausible. It is actually irrational to hold Christianity to a standard that demands proof beyond all possibility of doubt. We must examine claims made by the skeptic to see if they really are incompatible with Christianity. If they are not incompatible, then we must ask ourselves what, if anything, we must give up if the claim is true? If it is incompatible (or incompatible with some other truth we hold within Christianity), we must ask ourselves about what reasons we have to hold the truths in tension, and then jettison the one we have the least reason to believe. I, for one, believe I have far more reason to believe that “God exists” than I do that “naturalistic evolution is true,” and thus, even if I find evolution highly probable (which I do not), I would not disbelieve that God exists. At worst, I would assume theistic evolution, and at best, I would simply discredit evolution, no matter how plausible it seemed, because all of my other beliefs held in tension were more plausible.

Now, one concern is epistemic circularity: suppose I believe “God exists,” for independent reasons, but I only believe “the Bible is not mistaken,” because I believe God exists. In that case, since “the Bible is not mistaken” involves another belief under consideration, should I not count that against the claim that “the Bible is not mistaken”? Not at all, especially since I have independent reasons to affirm “God exists.” Since I have good grounds for thinking God exists, and hence (via argument) good grounds to think the Bible is not mistaken, then so much the worse for either my interpretation of the Bible or for evolution.

Thursday, December 13, 2012

The Gratuitous Objection


People often have a presumption of naturalism when it comes to debates over God and Christianity. That is to say, in a discussion over whether or not God exists, it is often assumed naturalism is true unless or until God is shown to exist. This assumption is faulty, and this article will show why.

First, one must understand exactly why the presumption of naturalism is held (from a naturalist’s perspective). The idea is that naturalism just describes the physical world and how it works. In that case, supernaturalism is just naturalism plus God. In this way, supernaturalism (and its positing of God) is shown to be gratuitous (or unnecessary).

Second, one must understand the problem with this presumption. Claiming naturalism is just descriptive of the way the world works assumes that naturalism can account for everything. This requires an argument, not a presumption. Certainly, if naturalism is true, then supernaturalism becomes wholly unnecessary (and even false!). But it simply will not do to offer a position that is not argued for on a definitional basis. There must be a reason to claim naturalism.

Next, the presumption of naturalism assumes that it makes sense to say naturalism explains how it is that the world works. “Now wait a minute,” an objector may interject, “that’s part of the definition!” This is not quite true. Naturalism describes the physical world, but it does not account for why it is that the physical world acts the way it does. Why do the physical laws act the way they do? Metaphysical naturalism can speculate (these laws are brute facts, or they are logically necessary, or some other such thing), but again, without argument, why suppose this explanation is adequate? In any case, without argument, it cannot be shown that God as an explanation is gratuitous.

In fact, it is precisely because of this idea of the ultimate explanation of the physical universe and how/why it works the way it does that one cannot simply presume his position is correct without argument. What if it is the case that naturalism cannot plausibly account for the metaphysics of the universe, but God can? We cannot know from merely presuming our respective positions to be correct. That, on the contrary, takes sophisticated argument.

Naturalism cannot be presumed without argument any more than God can be presumed without argument.[1] If that is the case, it cannot be shown that God is gratuitous without argument. If the explanation of the universe is not some kind of God, then we cannot take it for granted that we do know that explanation. Anyone in that epistemic situation must be open to all of the options--even if that includes believing in God, after all.
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[1] In fact, it may be argued that a flip-flop in presumption may be assumed, where the believer in God enjoys a kind of internal justification or warrant for her belief in God. This would be a significant advantage over naturalism, but is tangential to this discussion. See William Alston, Perceiving God.

Saturday, April 28, 2012

Michael Shermer and The Believing Brain

I have been reading Skeptic magazine founder Michael Shermer’s book The Believing Brain. In it, he argues for why people believe things in general, with a special focus on God, religion, conspiracies and scientific belief.[1] Of particular interest is his section on an attempt to answer the famous question of philosophy: “Why is there something rather than nothing?”

I shall quote selected portions of his writing on this and offer a critique. It is important to note Shermer takes the explanation for the existence of the universe to be two-pronged: the question listed above, and the fine tuning of the universe crying out for a designer.

[The question] is nonsensical, along the lines of asking What time was it before time began? Or What is north of the North Pole? Asking why there is something rather than nothing presumes “nothing” is the natural state of things out of which “something” needs an explanation.[2]

There are a number of issues here that need to be teased out. Shermer seems to think there is some sort of logical incoherence involved in asking the question of why there is something rather than nothing, or at least the same sort of incoherence as asking his example questions. He does not even attempt to show this. But moreover, I think we can show it is false. Ed Feser has said,

This is the muddleheaded stuff of a freshman philosophy paper -- treating 'nothing' as if it were an especially unusual, ethereal kind of substance whose nature it would require tremendous intellectual effort to fathom. Which, as everyone knows until he finds he has a motive for suggesting otherwise, it is not. Nothing is nothing so fancy as that. It is just the absence of anything, that’s all. Consider all the true existential claims that there are: 'Stones exist,' 'Trees exist,' 'Quarks exist,' etc. To ask why there is something rather than nothing is just to ask why it isn’t the case that all of these statements are false. Pretty straightforward.[3]

Indeed, it is straightforward. In fact, Shermer’s proposed analogous questions seem to be self-contradictory: in the first case it is assumed time existed and did not exist and in the second it is assumed the North Pole is not what it is defined to be. But what is supposed to be the problem analogous to asking why there is something rather than nothing? It does not suppose that if there were nothing, then there would be something, or vice versa.

The next problem Shermer faces is that he unwarrantedly assumes that somehow asking this question entails that “nothing” is the natural state of things from which something arises that needs to be explained. But why think this is the case? While it certainly could be that someone would claim it, no one appears to do so. In fact, Feser easily dispatches this claim by pointing out that Christians think a state of nothingness is impossible because God occupies reality in the absence of anything else, and so there is no default of nothingness on the Christian view.[4] Yet it makes complete sense to ask the question.

The very conception of God existing before the universe and then creating it implies a time sequence . . . time began with the big bang creation of the universe, so God would have to exist outside of space and time, which means that as finite beings delimited by living in a finite universe we cannot possibly know anything about such a supernatural entity . . .[5]

One gets the sense Shermer is attempting to make an argument against God creating the universe, but it is here convoluted and wrongheaded. First, I think he is right that God’s creation of the universe implies a temporal change in states of affairs, from the first moment to the second.[6] But that does not thereby show God does not exist, nor does he bring up what, precisely, the problem is supposed to be. Next, he rightly infers that if time has a beginning, then God existed without time logically prior to the big bang. Strangely, he follows this up by claiming we cannot possibly know anything about God. Presumably this includes the fact “God is outside of space and time.” But if God’s being outside of space and time necessitates that we know nothing about him, we have thereby lost any grounds for thinking that he is outside of space and time, and hence the threat of epistemic blindness concerning God evaporates. It occurs to me Shermer may claim this is so much the worse for Christian theism, but it is not an essential tenet of Christianity to say that we can know nothing of God if he is timeless.

Shermer moves on to list six finely tuned cosmic numbers, and seeks to combat the implication that the universe is finely tuned for life with six of his own alternatives to answer this argument.[7] The first objection is that the universe is a giant waste of space, so to speak. I do not know if Shermer realizes this is double-talk when compared to the six finely tuned constants (which shall be called “The Six” hereafter) or not. In any case, λ, one of The Six which causes the universe to expand at an accelerated rate, is needed for the proper formation of stars and galaxies. But in the case of higher expansion we should expect a larger space. Essentially, this objection only works in the case that λ is false, in which case it does not serve as an objection nor an explanation.

The next objection is called “cosmic chauvinism,” where Shermer believes that “different physics could produce different forms of life.”[8] But this objection just does not define “life” in the same way the fine tuning argument does. Whatever something would be under “different physics,” it would not be a different form of life, but something different altogether.

The next objection is what I term the “inconsistent objection.” This states that some of the constants are arbitrary and can even change, such as the speed of light. However, this is a very subtle move that is deceitful (at least, it’s difficult to see how someone with a scientific background could make this mistake). Shermer is not objecting that certain of The Six are inconsistent or arbitrary. Rather, he is objecting that certain features of the universe are not constants after all. So what follows here? He does not say.

The fourth objection is the “Science of the Gaps” objection. It infers from science’s past successes that it will be able to overcome the fine tuning argument at some point in time. There are two major issues with this, however. First, if science took this track with respect to everything scientific then nothing would ever be believed. The epistemological principle employed here is that as long as it is possible a future development could explain X in another way, the best explanation currently should be rejected. This is obviously fallacious. Second, Shermer even admits this “theory of everything will itself need an explanation” that he expects they may have one day.[9] So The Six may one day be explained fully by a theory we do not have, which shall in turn be explained by another theory we do not have. That smells desperate.

The next objection essentially argues that because we have held beliefs in the past that turned out to be proven false scientifically that we should not be surprised to find out that The Six really are somehow accounted for one day. Again, this does not even argue that it is not the case that the best explanation of The Six is a design inference. It just charges that because we will make scientific advances at all, we have reason to believe we will make sufficient scientific advances to explain The Six in a way that avoids the consequences of fine tuning. But that does not follow.

Finally, Shermer argues for a multiverse to account for The Six. However, each of his accounts fails to avoid the fine tuning issue in varying respects. For instance, of the “natural selection” model Moreland and Craig point out,

The fatal flaw in Smolin’s scenario . . . was his assumption that universes fine-tuned for black hole production would also be fine-tuned for the production of stable stars. In fact, the opposite is true: the most proficient producers of black holes would be universes that generate them prior to star formation, so that life-permitting universes would actually be weeded out by Smolin’s [and Shermer’s preferred] cosmic evolutionary scenario.[10]

While Shermer’s arguments here are somewhat interesting, they are underdeveloped and not particularly convincing. Moreover, it is not always clear the inference being drawn; one does not always know how Shermer reasoned from one point to the next. Perhaps he took it as obvious; it was not. In any case, “why is there something rather than nothing?” cries out to be explained.


                [1] He obviously takes science to be the most superior of all epistemologies, despite its obvious impotence to explain even itself, much less certain other features of reality (2). But that is for another article.

                [2] Michael Shermer, The Believing Brain (New York: Times Books, 2011), 323.

                [3] Ed Feser, “Steng Operation,” <http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2012/04/steng-operation.html> accessed April 27, 2012.

                [4] Ibid.

                [5] Shermer, 323.

                [6] Though it should be noted he uses the very same concept as the incoherent question (What time was it before time began?) he condemns only seven sentences earlier.

                [7] I will not be quoting them, but they can be found in Shermer, 325-27.

                [8] Ibid., 325.

                [9] Ibid., 326.

                [10] J.P. Moreland and William Lane Craig, Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview (Downers Grove, IL: IVP Academic, 2003), 488.

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Tuesday, April 17, 2012

Beliefs, Free Will, and God

1. If we have free will, then at least some of our beliefs are formed partly of our own will.

Suppose one is a gambler, and he chooses to exercise in a game of chance involving a small red box. The idea is that there is something in the box, and it either contains a million dollars or it does not. Nothing else is known about the game, nor how many times it has been played, nor if anyone has won or how often. The man certainly does not know whether or not one million dollars is in the box, but he nevertheless may believe “one million dollars is in the box” or not. He does not have any epistemological reasons for his belief; he is not supposing he is “due” for some good luck or any such nonsense. Yet his belief is not entirely random. It is based on his greed. Because he desires money, he chooses to form a belief about the money being in the box. Although this belief may be irrational, he has nonetheless chosen it, and free will partly formed the belief. One worry is that this is only so in situations in which the subject is being irrational (for one may argue scenarios in which the subject holds a belief on a rational basis may be causally determined, hence their rationality). However, it does not follow that whatever is rational is determined, and at least in that case the worry does not act as a defeater for (1).

2. It is not the case that one ought to believe P if he is unable to believe P.

If the subject cannot form a belief about some P, then it hardly makes sense to say that the subject ought to believe P in order to be rational. More properly, it does not make sense to speak of the subject’s belief in terms of rationality or irrationality.[1] No one thinks that a dog who lies by the front door of his dead owner is behaving irrationally; they simply think he is being a dog. Rather, at best the dog is displaying a-rational behavior (see n.1). But there are plenty of times we think someone, of sufficient mental capacity, is behaving irrationally, and ought to form a different belief in order to remain rational.

3. There are at least some beliefs we ought to hold in order to be rational.

This is analytically true if there are any beliefs that can properly be called irrational.

4. There are at least some beliefs we are able to form and hold.

(4) follows from (2-3).

There seems to be an argument for being able to form one’s beliefs. For one might reasonably suppose from (2-3) that whatever one ought to believe in order to be rational, he can believe. But this leads to:

5. On determinism there are at least some beliefs that ought to be held in order to be rational that at least some subjects cannot form nor hold.

There are two potential responses to (5) in light of the present argument. The first response is to bite the bullet. Admit that there are at least some beliefs that one ought to hold in order to be considered rational that cannot be held on determinism (since it is so highly implausible, on naturalistic/materialistic accounts of determinism, that we are able to hold every rational belief). “All that follows is that we consider the subject to be ‘a-rational’ in these cases,” he may object. The problem with this is that it is wildly counterintuitive. If we supposed that, then most every case of irrationality is actually a case of a-rationality. But surely this cannot be true. If one does not bite the bullet, then the move to make is to say that there are no beliefs that ought to be held in order to be rational that at least some subjects cannot form nor hold; or put another way: every belief needed to be held in order to be rational can be formed and held by every agent who can be said to be acting in the rational/irrational paradigm with respect to that belief. But in that case, determinism is false.[2]

If we can at least partly form our beliefs with our free will, then this explains the moral dimension we ascribe to people who hold beliefs that are themselves morally repugnant. For instance, the person who believes torturing babies in front of their parents for the fun of it is morally repugnant for this even if he never attempts to do such a thing (or even facilitate it, promote it, etc.). If one has partly formed his belief through his free will (or even antecedent character-forming choices), then he is to blame for the belief he now holds. Finally, we get to the point: if one can help choose his beliefs, then one can at least have some measure of influence on her own belief with respect to Jesus Christ. At some point, it’s not a matter of can’t believe, it is won’t believe. I once had a conversation with an atheist who essentially said they would never submit to God. This is a choice. What will yours be?


                [1] In fact, beliefs themselves may be construed as properly belonging only to the realm of the irrational/rational realm, so that whatever is not rational (henceforth called “a-rational”) just cannot be called a belief at all.

                [2] Theological determinists certainly may have a complaint here, but it seems that even (5) could be affirmed by the theological determinist. Even theological determinists think that some people act irrationally with respect to their beliefs. I suspect their real complaint will lie with (2).

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Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Top 10 List!

Possible Worlds has recently passed the 60,000 view-mark. In honor of this, I’ll just be linking to the top 10 posts of all-time, from least to most popular, along with a summary and link of each one. Enjoy!


This article offers objections to the practice of apologetics and biblical, philosophical, and practical responses to these objections. Have you ever heard such objections as, “you can’t argue anyone into the kingdom?” If so, this might be the article for you.


The objection is that Christians derive an “ought” from an “is” when they describe God’s morality. Through examination of divine command theory, this article suggests such an objection misunderstands what it means for there to be an objective moral obligation or duty. A strict delineation between objective moral values and duties is highlighted.


A more general post, this deals with two popular-level objections one is likely to encounter on the Internet. Special attention is given to the idea of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.


The logical problem of evil asserts that it is logically impossible that God exists and that evil exists. Such a bold claim must be defended, and its plausibility is attacked by demonstrating there does not seem to be any logical inconsistency in positing these two statements.


This article teaches believers how to recognize “dirty tricks” of debate when they come upon it. It provides helpful examples and tips for working around these tricks.


Focusing on the argument from contingency, this post looks at the plausibility of each of the premises, and finds that one is at least justified in thinking they are all true. But in that case, it follows that one is justified in thinking God exists!


Perhaps the most difficult argument in natural theology to understand, the modal ontological argument is, at the very least, wildly entertaining to think about. Essentially, it incontrovertibly establishes the fact that God’s existence is either necessary or impossible. In other words, if it’s even possible that God exists, then he does! This is the newest post on this list.


In this brief article, we take a look at Penn Jillette of the magician duo Penn and Teller. He makes some interesting claims about his atheism and reasons for it. This proved quite popular; much more so than I would have thought.


By far, the two William Lane Craig debates I covered are the most popular. In fact, this particular debate, searched for on Google as “review of Craig Krauss debate” (without quotations) places this article as #1 in search rankings! I covered each aspect of the debate, interacting with ideas on both sides and objections to the ideas, all the way through to the Q&A portion.


This article is ahead of any other article at Possible Worlds by nearly 2,000 views. It too is #1 on Google underneath its search. This generated some interesting discussion on whether or not objective morality can be grounded on atheism or naturalism. Sam Harris is apparently a much more popular speaker!
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Thursday, February 9, 2012

Evolution and Objective Morality

This is a quick post concerning evolution and objective morality. From time to time, it is alleged that evolution is responsible for the formation of our shared belief in objective moral values, and hence objective moral values are false. They are merely constructs of adaptation for survival. So, does evolution falsify objective morality? I don’t think so.

First, as is regularly pointed out, this is just an example of the genetic fallacy. That is to say it is fallacious to infer because of how a belief originated it is therefore false. A classic example would be the proponent of socialism scolding the proponent of democracy thus: “You only think democracy is the best form of government because you were raised in one!” One would, and hardly should, think democracy is therefore false. So it is with evolution. Even if evolution is responsible for our shared belief in objective morality, we have no grounds to conclude it is false.

Second, some may suggest while evolution does not entail objective morality’s falsehood, it makes it less likely to be true. The argument would be that evolution’s accounting for belief in objective moral values is consistent with those values being false. But this is hardly demonstrative, or even suggestive, of that belief being false. After all, the same reasoning gets us just any belief to be in the same situation. We don’t think, for example, laws of logic are probably false because evolution accounts for our belief in them.

One final interesting side note: there is at least one way of escape here. The objector may bite the bullet and admit that it is the case that every belief, on naturalistic evolution, is consistent with that belief being false and hence we have a defeater for every belief. In that case, either evolution did not happen, and the best naturalistic account of the current state of things evaporates, or evolution was guided by a transcendent source, guaranteeing at least some true beliefs. In either case, we have a defeater for naturalistic evolution. But if we have a defeater for naturalistic evolution, it follows the objection against objective moral values loses all force.
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Friday, January 27, 2012

Scientism Revisited

Scientism is the view that says “empirical science is the only source of our knowledge of the world (strong scientism) or, more moderately, the best source of rational belief about the way things are (weak scientism).”[1] I am addressing, in this post, the more popular-level scientism that one encounters on the Internet. What spurred the post was an interesting interaction on another Christian’s blog wherein a new atheist claimed there could be logical contradictions. In response to the claim that one must rely on some kind of version of the law of noncontradiction for this, he claimed that logic is in the same boat, for it cannot be justified apart from circularity.

The two problems are not, in fact, symmetrical. The first problem, which I shall dub the “logic problem” (or LP), states that logic cannot justify itself, for it would have to presuppose the use of logical reasoning to find out if that same reasoning were justified. The second problem, which I shall dub the “illogic problem” (or IP), states that any attempt to justify why the law of noncontradiction fails will end up relying on some objective form of it.

LP has the luxury of being what Kant would famously call “transcendent.” That is, it cannot be thought of other than by presupposing its truth. Now while that is in fact circular, it nonetheless seems harmless, since any rational criticism given of it will by definition be employing the same rationality it wishes to criticize.[2]

IP has no such symmetrical luxury. In fact, it faces the opposite problem. It must purport that logic does not exist in an absolute or objective manner. IP must then either give an objective reason for such, in which case it is self-defeating, or must give no reason at all, in which case one does not need to believe it. There is a difference between circularity and self-defeat. In circularity, the idea or proposition relies on its own truth in its expression. In self-defeat, the idea or proposition relies on its own falsehood in its expression. And so it is with the idea that logic is faulty.

What does this have to do with scientism and new atheism? In my particular example, the new atheist was not disputing whether or not philosophy suggested there was a God. Rather, he simply concluded philosophy has little or no place because science was all we needed. In defense of science not being able to justify itself nor saying philosophy does not apply, he merely employed a tu quoque response. Science’s not being able to justify itself is not a symmetrical problem either, since the idea of empiricism cannot exist apart from philosophy.[3] Scientism, at least on the popular level, cannot be successfully defended.


                [1] James E. Taylor, “The New Atheists,” in The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy. < http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/ >, accessed January 27, 2012.

                [2] Note I am not necessarily defending particular rules of logic as much as logic itself, regardless of the particular formal rules.

                [3] This is just to say that empiricism is not transcendent; it can be thought of apart from presupposing its truth. Thus, the problems of science/IP and LP are not symmetrical in any meaningful sense.

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