Showing posts with label Islam. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Islam. Show all posts

Thursday, August 25, 2011

How to Evaluate Differences Between Gods


I have become very interested in finding out what makes one god different than another. Specifically, what makes it the case that another god is different than the actual God? My intuition tells me that Allah of Islam is not the same as the God of the Bible. But why is this? It certainly cannot be the name, for Jehovah does not self-identify with the English word “God.” So what is it? A few suggestions will be made and evaluated.

1. A god differs from the biblical God if its followers believe in things, actions, or attitudes different from that of the biblical God.

The problem with this statement is that it makes Calvinists and Arminians believe in different gods. Of course, if you don’t believe in the God of the Bible, then you are necessarily unsaved. Hence, each side should regard the other as a lost heathen. It gets worse. Because there is probably at least one thing, act, or attitude that differs between any two believers, it follows that each and every believer probably believes in a separate god from one another. This cannot be correct.

2. A god differs from the biblical God if that god rejects Christ.

This has some intuitive support. After all, one cannot be saved and reject Christ, hence any god served who also rejects Christ must be a false god, right? Not necessarily. Consider the Jewish people. They reject Christ (and hence are not saved), yet it is clear the referent of “God” is clearly the God of the Bible.

3. A god differs from the biblical God if that god has different essential properties.

This also seems to do well at first. Allah clearly has different essential properties than the biblical God. Primary among them is that God does not love sinners and the primary focus is upon his will; a form of theological voluntarism. Next, it also avoids the symmetry on Calvinism or Arminianism. It does this because although Calvinists may believe that God has theological voluntarism as part of his being, or some Arminians may think God is not a logically necessary being, these are secondary to the actual ontological existence of the God they do worship by virtue of being Christians. Since this is not a discussion on what makes one a Christian, and they are Christians, they are vindicated. However, this seems a bit tenuous. Perhaps it would be better to say:

4. A god differs from the biblical God if that god has different essential properties and rejects Christ.

This has the benefit of combining both views. This means only in the case that a particular religion or religious belief holds God to have different essential properties and to reject Christ’s message and salvation do they serve a different god than the biblical one. Now for some test examples. The Jews qualify as believers in the biblical God, for although they reject Christ, they believe that God has the same essential properties. Any further disagreements about what God does or who he is tend to be contingent or tertiary, as far as I know. The Muslims would disqualify on both conditions. Calvinists and Arminians qualify, perhaps by embracing both conditions (depending on how one takes my explanation in [3]). Mormons would disqualify, and arguably on both conditions. It is clear the Mormon conception of God differs wildly: he does not exist a se, he is not eternal, he had a beginning, he is not logically necessary, etc. Since salvation is not merely faith alone but along with works, and since Jesus himself seems to be a very different figure in Mormon theology, it seems that both branches are fulfilled. It seems this is a good measure that confirms our strong intuitions on the matter.

What do we think of this? Counterexamples? Any better suggestions?
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Wednesday, June 15, 2011

Dialogue with a Muslim, Part 2

These are follow-up responses to the e-mail I received in reply to my answers. (3) and (10) were eliminated because the answers ended up being covered elsewhere within the e-mail. Enjoy!

1. So you said that God the Father and the Son are not the same being, but they have the same essence. Does that mean that their nature is the same? Is God just His nature? That's probably a stupid question though, right, because He's not physical, so what else would He be? Argh, my head's already starting to hurt...So, okay, technically, God can exist within time? And He can be dependent on food and stuff? And He can exist in two places at once?...Basically, I don't understand how something can be three, and also one. 

        We must be careful here to make a distinction between "beings" and "persons." The Father and Jesus are not the same person, but they are the same being. Don't worry if your head starts hurting; far more intelligent people than we are have struggled with this! It does mean that their nature is the same; it is the divine nature. As to the questions about being in time, the kalam almost seems to necessitate the first cause being in time! But beyond that it should be pointed out when we speak of Jesus' incarnation, we are speaking specifically of his humanness (traditionally, we say "human nature." I however have avoided this with you deliberately because we do not mean "nature" in this sense as the same as "essence" when we used "nature" interchangably with "essence" earlier. Basically, we mean two different things by the two uses of "nature." Here, we mean "that which makes one a human" instead of essence.). This is why we may say it was not God that died in his divinity but his humanity. It is not the human flesh that is in two places at once, but divine omnipotence (which means, traditionally, that God is causally active at every point in space and time). This can become very complex, but we must not confuse complexity for contradiction! Finally, it is vitally important to recognize that saying something is three and one at the same time and in the same sense is logically contradictory, and hence impossible. But the good news is that God is three in number of persons, but one in being or essence! Hence we avoid a contradiction. Does that at least come closer to helping?

2. Sorry, I'm still a bit confused as to how Christians who wrote down Jesus' (pbuh) teachings knew that they fully grasped the meanings of his words...So, in the case of Jesus, why didn't the gospel writers just write it in Aramaic to ensure that they didn't mess up God's words? Maybe not consciously--heck, probably not consciously, seeing as they were dedicated individuals--but maybe they sent the wrong "vibe", or something. I mean, think about it. God's words. Those are pretty huge, in my opinion. Why'd they risk unconsciously leaving out meanings? 

        There are a couple of answers that can be proffered. Remember that translation does not inherently mean the lack of an idea, and no one need be 100% beyond all shadow of a doubt in order to say he knows he has represented faithfully Jesus' words. A point that goes with this is that Jesus was not dictating teaching to be written down (view this in contradistinction to Allah and Mohammed for comparison and reference, I would think), but rather teaching in general. It's worth noting that no verses of Jesus' words are disputed as to their translation from Greek to English, for instance, even if all nuances are not retained (another important aspect of translation philosophy is that simply because a word contains a particular nuance, it does not follow that nuance applies to the meaning in all situations. This is why context is key!). Sure, it is always possible in a strict logical sense that someone misremembered a particular phrase and then gave a separate meaning, but without any reason to think so, we shouldn't let it bother us. Why? Well, first, because we can be reasonably sure (as I mentioned in the last email) that the words spoken were the words given. Secondly, we can be reasonably sure to trust translations in general (as just discussed). And finally, and perhaps the biggest point, is that the Gospel writers just did in fact write the Word of God! So their writing in Greek is held in Christian doctrine to be the inspired Word of God, so that Christians can believe the words were retained correctly. I must also emphasize that even if some of the words of Jesus were wrong and the Bible were not to be the inspired Word of God, all that follows is that the Bible is not the Word of God; it would not logically follow that Christianity is false! We could still examine the NT documents as historical documents to see the likelihood of the claims of Jesus as being true or not. As to the Gospels recording Jesus' words on the Cross, I assume you are referring to different writers recording different sayings (I think). The Gospel writers did not attempt to make four identical records of what happened--we might wonder what the point was! Rather, each writer chose to emphasize different things. Therefore, we shouldn't view John's writing Jesus' instructions to John to take care of Mary, the mother of Jesus as John's saying that he didn't say "I thirst" and whatnot. Rather, these are complimentary. Remember, there's no reason why Jesus could not have said all of these things! :) The inspiration of Scripture is an interesting topic. The Gospel writers had their own various purposes. John's was ostensibly to evangelize Jews not living in Palestine in the late first century (hence why he takes it for granted that his audience knows about particular Jewish feasts, customs, etc., but not about particulars of the exact time and place, like the Sadducees and their beliefs [since they were local to Palestine and gone by 70 AD]). Luke wrote to a partiuclar person (Theophilus) to convince him of the truth of the message of Jesus Christ by evidences (like I am doing to you! :) ). Mark wrote an early record focused on action (hence many miracles recorded in a short manuscript). Matthew wrote to establish the genealogy of Jesus Christ and the legitimacy of his claim to be the Messiah. All are very useful as they are and I love them!

4. So, basically, all those Jews had been worshiping the wrong version of God?...So, sorry, to rehash: God reveals parts of His nature slowly. So, He might later reveal that He's not actually just, or that He has another son or something? Is that allowed? What if He reveals that He can lie? 

        Don't be sorry; I love answering these! Christians do not say that they had a "wrong" version of God, but rather incomplete. It wouldn't be morally wrong, and while one can argue factual incompleteness is incorrect, they nonetheless did not deny the Trinity (in fact, Isaiah teaches the Messiah would be God, and born of a virgin. A somewhat implicit, if dormant, view of the plurality of persons in the Godhead). I would answer your final two questions directly as "no." Here's why: 1. God cannot do things that are contradictory. Titus 1:2 is one of two places that explicitly (rather than implicitly) teaches that God cannot lie. Hence, since he does not do contradictions, it is impossible for him to later reveal he can lie (unless he was a liar from the beginning, which surely is blasphemy!). 2. Perfect Being Theology, which asserts that God is a maximally excellent being in all things applicable, demands moral goodness, and it is not good to lie as an objective moral value. While it is epistemically possible for God to reveal a fourth member of the Godhood, this is nonetheless highly unlikely due to Christian eschatology teaching the fellowship of Christians and OT saints with God as revealed in three persons, hence, since this is discussing the eternity future, it is unlikely.

5. Haha, at least I got a straight answer. And I guess I'm roasting too, eh? That stinks. Ah well. You win some, you lose some. (I'm not actually that nonchalant about it, evidently, since I'm emailing you, haha.)

           Yes, but is grieves me so much. I can only imagine how your friend feels, since he/she knows you. I am glad to hear you are not so glib about it. Please understand, I would never, ever try to intimidate you or scare you into believing in Jesus (no one can make you anyway). But no matter what one's view of punishment is, you nonetheless will miss out on the forgiveness, mercy, love, and grace that is freely available to you. I am being very sincere when I say that just hurts to think about it. God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

6. Sorry, people don't depend on medieval Christians views of things? I was reading St Augustine's work today (man, that guy is wordy), and it sounds to me like his teachings majorly influenced current Christian theology. I'm no expert though, so I guess maybe they didn't? And I see what you're saying. But you know the Pope? I mean, if his ancestors said Hell was one thing, and he said it was another, and there's papal infallibility, er...well, I mean, how does that work? 

        Well, to be fair, Church historians classify Augustine as a church father, as he came a few hundred years before the medievals. He is very influential, though. However, no major doctrine depends upon Augustine (when discussing essentials, anyway). As to the Pope, I have the luxury of not being a Catholic. :)

7. If God's spirit is the Holy Spirit, does that mean Jesus doesn't have a spirit?

        Keep in mind when we say "God" in your question here we do not mean the Father, but the spirit of the essence that is the Godhood. So Jesus, as a man, had a spirit. But theologians differ among themselves as to what Jesus' spirit was in the incarnation. Some say it was the divine essence, or the Logos, itself. I don't see any particular problem with this view, though I am not dogmatic.

8. I see what you're saying, and that actually occurred to me, but doesn't that whole Jesus/atonement thing sound like a huge charade that God could easily have gotten out of by tweaking His own rules a bit? I mean, why didn't He just forgive sins if someone repented?...Shouldn't the path uphill--to sincere repentance, to forgiveness, to betterment--be enough to forgive a person? Seeing as He did make us sinners and all...

        It's very important to remember God did not make us sinners, but man freely chose to sin in the garden of Eden. But my friend, the rest just is the problem! We can never earn our own salvation. It is a gulf that cannot be crossed. Why? Precisely because God cannot tweak his own nature. Philosophically, it is impossible to go beyond one's own nature. What about God? God is "limited" by his own nature since he is the foundation of logic. THat is, logic and truth do not exist apart from God. Because of this, whatever is logical or true is such as a reflection of God's nature. There is no one specific Bible verse that spells all of this out; however, there are several verses that explain God is holy, God is just, God punishes the wicked, God is merciful, God is loving, God is willing that all should not perish. But then why are not all saved? Why do some receive punishment then? If God can tweak his own nature, surely he could simply choose everyone. That is exactly what he wants to do, biblically. But he cannot. Further, there are philosophical considerations. If someone is the objective standard of morality (which the Bible does state in Matthew 19:17 and Mark 10:18), then these morals cannot be violated (else they don't really exist objectively in the first place). In any case, there is nothing that can logically be done to undo a sin; what has been done has been done, on pain of logical contradiction! But if a perfectly holy God exists, then sinners cannot be saved. Unless, that is, there is a morally perfect man who never sins, and who offers himself as a sacrifice. This could not happen from a naturally-born man, because of sin in one's nature. But God could do it. And he did! :)

9. Weren't Adam and Eve chillaxing in Heaven originally? So, whilst they were up there doing their thing, God had already decided that people would go down to Earth? But after they ate the apple, He changed His tactic and said that they'd have to wait for Jesus to atone for them? So He was going to send them down to Earth anyways, even without them sinning? The sinning was just convenient, I guess.

        Oh no, they were created on earth. They did not exist until the sixth day of creation according to the text. As to your question about suffering and salvation...if only you knew! Believers in North America do not really suffer, but around the world they are persecuted, beaten and killed for their beliefs. In fact, Paul of Tarsus (who suffered so much) wrote that his life's purpose was this: "That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death." That's in his letter to the Philippian believers in chapter 3 verse 10. Jesus said the world would hate us, and people would think they were doing God a favor by killing us. Paul elsewhere said "all who will live godly...will suffer persecution." It's not easy once you become a believer. But none of these sufferings save us. No amount of our suffering ever could. But I do want you to know it's not all fun and games. I have never been beaten, but I've been ridiculed. I've never been killed (obviously), but I've hated and told I was irrational. The idea that the life of a Christian is easy can only be true if one isn't making any difference in the world. :) You certainly are not stupid! I'm glad you've brought these things up. I keep emphasizing the fact we can be forgiven of our sins. All one has to do is to believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, that he came to the earth to live as a man and die for the forgiveness of sins, and that he was buried and then raised from the dead by God on the third day. If you believe that in your heart, and ask God with your mouth to be saved, you will be (cf. Romans 10:9). Notice what is not required: you do not have to have a perfect understanding of the Trinity, or live a good life before you get saved, or earn a doctorate in theology. Anyone who understands the Gospel can be saved. I beg you to consider it. I am not a fool. I know I am asking you to change your worldview. But that's the beauty of God. He can help us do the seemingly impossible.

11. Sorry, new question, but this just occurred to me. Does God know exactly how He's going to act? Would it be very silly to say that God doesn't have free will?

        Yes, God does know exactly how he is going to act. He even knows how he would have acted in any other circumstances. That's part of his omniscience. God also knows how every possible person would have acted in any other possible scenario. These are called "counterfactuals," and they're a part of God's "middle knowledge," or his knowledge of what free creatures would freely do in various situations. God knows what would have happened if John Wilkes Booth had not chosen to assassinate President Lincoln, God knows what you would say if someone presented you the Gospel five years from now instead of today, etc. God does have a free will, but having a free will doesn't mean choosing from every logically possible option. All that is required for a will to be free is that the agent be the true originator of his choice. So while God is not free to lie, he nonetheless is free to choose what to say (or even refrain from speaking). Does that help at all?

12. Another one, but this shouldn't take too long. :) What denomination are you, if you don't mind my asking? Also, do you believe in original sin? And you know people who have never heard of Christ through no fault of their own? Are they going to go to Hell too?
        I am a Baptist, and I do not mind you asking. :) I do believe in original sin, in that I believe Adam and Eve sinned, and hence passed along a propensity to sin along to their offspring (aka the rest of us). I am planning on writing a blog post soon about your very thoughtful question concerning those who have never heard. Suffice it to say for now that I believe God holds every person responsible for the light he/she does have, and thus there may potentially be some who have never heard of Christ who nonetheless go to Heaven. Hint: Job in the OT. He wasn't a Jew, and so knew of no Messiah, and he wasn't around for Jesus. And of course the Ninevites (did Jonah really stop to tell them about a Messiah? Or did they repent from coming judgment as the narrative says). Then there is Apollos (who was around preaching about God knowing only the ministry of John the Baptist and not Jesus, despite the fact this was probably 5-7 years after Christ's death and resurrection. Was he not saved? Of course he was!). Anyway I rest my case for now, and will write a better post about it later this week.

But wait, sorry, with regards to the kalam argument: If time doesn't exist outside of the Universe, then, well, wouldn't the Universe just have "occurred"? I mean, wouldn't "nothingness" become "somethingness" automatically, because it was meant to? I guess this is going too deep for me, so sorry if I'm messing it up.

        You're right that if no time exists without there being a universe then the universe's first moment would be the first moment. Hence, it's not inaccurate to say it occurred. However, this wouldn't refute either of the kalam's premises. What does that mean then? It means that the universe still requires a cause, and hence even if there is a temporal boundary point to the universe and thus the universe has existed for every moment in time, it still requires a cause.

Tuesday, June 14, 2011

A Dialogue with a Muslim

The following is a response to an email I received from a Muslim curious about Christianity. The sad part is no one seemed to be able to answer these very sincere questions of this person. This person is to be commended for their level of honest inquiry and their desire to wrestle with the issues of Christianity. Here is the letter, edited only for anonymity's sake.

1. OK, so how can God be a man? How can God exist within space & time (which He did, apparently, when He was Jesus)? 


        You're right that God existed both in space and time as a man within the Christian view of Jesus. In order for him to become a man, he would have to be born to a human person (otherwise, he is not actually a man, but a man-like being, which won't do any good for the purposes intended). Now, this incarnation could not have been by sexual union; otherwise, God would be sinful (which on the traditional Christian conception of God is logically impossible). Hence, what Christians call the "virgin birth" took place. That is to say, Jesus Christ came, born of a woman with no sexual relations whatsoever. The person of Jesus, who existed within the Godhead was born on this earth. The contribution of the woman was the egg, but there was no sperm. I apologize for being graphic, but I feel I need to in order to disabuse ourselves of any false notions. God did not have sexual relations with Mary, and no one did. On a related note, God the Father is not God the Son; they are two separate persons sharing the same essence or substance. In any case, God became a man by a non-sexually fertilized egg in which Jesus' divine nature likely took on the position of the soul (though Christians debate among themselves exactly how it was done). In this way, Jesus was truly man, and truly God. Two separate natures (material/immaterial of man; the divine essence or being that is the Godhead the other).
 
2. You know how Jesus spoke in Aramaic and the gospels were written in Koine Greek? How do Christians know that something that Jesus said wasn't lost in translation? For instance, I speak two languages, and whenever I try to translate between the two, there's always something undefinable--sort of like a connotation--that's lost. So, what if the same thing happened with Jesus' words? Isn't that worrisome?
 
        Yes. We are very concerned with ensuring that the words of the Bible are the words Jesus spoke (where applicable). There are a few issues though. First, while it is true some connotations may be lost, it is not true (in most cases) that the ideas contained in the word cannot find a cognate in another language. For example, the Spanish "hola" finds its English equivalent in "hello," and the idea is preserved. Second, most of the New Testament is not the words of Jesus, and the doctrine accords with what he says. So no major doctrine is built upon his words only. Third, in the cases where Jesus does speak, no plausible translation from Aramaic to Greek results in a radically different teaching. Fourth, even the Jesus Seminar (who thinks Jesus is largely misrepresented) grants that quite a few sayings are plausibly or almost certainly authentic--and they are in the radical minority of scholarship today. The majority holds that Jesus' words are largely well-established through the plethora of early manuscripts we do have. If inauthentic translations were done (that is, pure fabrications), there were others who could have corrected it. Which leads to the fifth point: the eyewitnesses who did in fact write a majority of the New Testament would have acted as a check-and-balance against the false words of the mistranslated Gospels. Hence, the fact that these are not corrected (by either the apostles or any of their early disciples [who extend well into the second-century because of John]) leads us to conclude we do have his words after all. Finally, I must make the distinction that Jesus did not write any of the New Testament. These are merely his recorded words in parts of the Gospels almost exclusively. These sayings even differ slightly among themselves in the Gospels. The mere fact the idea is retained in all of them lends credence to the idea that we may be confident we have an accurate representation of what Christ spoke, while not misrepresenting anything he wrote (since Christ did not write these things). Excellent question!
 
3. Is there any specific reason that God is called "Father" and not "Mother"? I mean, does God have more father-like attributes or something? Or is that just, I dunno, the way it is?
        A little bit of both. :) But seriously, this is one I do not have a definitive answer to. I do know that God does not have gender, as gender seems to be a reflection of creatures, not the ultimate creator. So God the Father is not a literal male, but he has revealed himself as male for some specific reason (as there is no arbitrariness in God). In the model of the Trinity, the Father is the Father in his relation to the Son, so since the Son was God from eternity past, perhaps it is a necessary attribute for God to be the Father as such in that particular person.
 
4. This is just a general question. Why didn't God mention in the Old Testament (henceforth "OT") that He was triune? Wouldn't that be something He'd state in, like, the first commandment?
 
        That's another excellent question. In the Pentateuch, which Muslims at least acknowledge to a point if I remember correctly, the main thrust of the text is that God has revealed his law to people, and has begun the movement of reconciliation of sinful man to himself. Within that, God gave the OT Law. NT writers acknowledged with ease that the OT Law was insufficient. Jesus himself made this very same argument, sometimes directly, and sometimes indirectly, in his entanglements with the Pharisees. Yet it would be a mistake to say that Christianity views the OT Law as wrong or inaccurate. Why? Because God wisely revealed his ideal slowly, over time. In the OT prophets, Malachi says God hates divorce. Yet, in Isaiah God divorced Israel (for a short time), and in the Pentateuch provisions are made for the woman who was divorced from her husband! Is this a contradiction? No! Jesus said "for the hardness of men's hearts did Moses permit this" in reference to divorce. The idea of the Law is that God introduced a standard that was far short of the ideal, but pointed and worked toward the ideal: the one found in Jesus Christ. In the same way, God progressively revealed things about the coming Messiah (Jewish word for "chosen one" of God) slowly and not all at once. Since it is pretty much God's MO to do this, we should not be surprised he does the same thing as it relates to his nature. :)
 
5. Do Christians think Jews are going to go to Hell?
 
        No. But, of course, the answer is not that simple. Taken simply and woodenly, no entire class of people are going to Hell, save one: the class that rejects Jesus as Savior and Lord. That is quite offensive to some, but please understand I do not mean it that way. To expand on the answer, the Jews have rejected their Messiah for quite some time (with notable exceptions throughout history, of cours), but in the end times they will not. The whole idea of Revelation and Romans 11 is that there will be an entire, large remnant of Jews in the end times who will uniformly convert to Christ. But unfortunately, so many Jews have rejected their Messiah, and thus as they have died they have gone to Hell. :(
 
6. I asked my Christian friend about Hell and he said it was "eternal separation from God", and that the medieval Christians had, whoops-a-daisy, gotten that whole fire thing wrong. But Hell sounds like a pretty fundamental concept to me. So if those olden day Christians got their concept of Hell wrong, how do you know they didn't get other fundamental concepts wrong?
 
        This is a great question! I would respond by making one thing clear: the concept of Hell itself is not a fundamental truth-claim of Christianity. The Christian church has largely defined "fundamental" Christian truth is that in virtue of which Christianity is false if it is false. A little more clearly: if Jesus did not rise from the dead, then Christianity is false (1 Corinthians 15). The reason? Because if he did not rise from the dead he was not who he said he was. If he did not rise from the dead and if he was not who he said he was, then he cannot possibly rectify the issue of imputed sin. The idea of Hell is an important, but at best corollary, doctrine. Notice Christianity still rises and falls on the prior claims whether or not Hell is literal, or metaphorical, or even if annihilationism is true. The point? The Church has stood strongly on these matters since the founding of the Church (the central claims of Christianity), even if the peripherals have been debated. To answer your question more directly, however, I would say this: it does not follow if one concept is incorrect, then all other concepts become suspect. Consider Isaac Newton. Newton was incorrect about several things, but he was quite correct about gravity. Now one may protest that gravity is testable, but my point is that gravity did not become suspect because something else was suspect. Only in the case of supposed incompetence would we have said this. So, even if we were to depend on the medieval Christians' views on the central doctrines (which we do not, for what it's worth), the fact they were incorrect in one aspect (which I am not convinced their view was entirely wrong, by the way) wouldn't lead to a suspect view of all other teachings, unless there was evidence leading to that fact. I hope that helped on that one!
 
7. Does the Holy Spirit actually have a point? I mean, what is it? And does the "Son" have a point besides being a sacrifice for humans' sins?
 
        I love the honesty of these questions! If only I could get Christians to ask the same ones! Yes, they do have points. :) Keep in mind these are not creations of the Father, but God in their own being, sharing the essence with the Father. In any case, the Spirit does quite a bit (I am actually preparing a 15-page paper on the idea of the Holy Spirit in the Gospel of John). The Spirit convicts people of sin. This means he works in the hearts of unbelievers to show them their guilt, and, if they will receive it, that Jesus is the Christ. Next, the Spirit was active in creation. In Genesis 1:2, God's spirit prepared the formless earth for God's creative work. The Spirit also empowers believers with spiritual gifts, such as mercy, serving, and teaching. It's amazing to see mean-spirited people suddenly transform into the most empathetic, loving people you've ever seen. It's happened. :) As to the Son, he does have a point. Hebrews 1 says Jesus is the radiance of God's glory, and the exact representation of his [the Father's] being. Here's the point: John 4:24 says God is a spirit. The Bible also says no man can see God and live (because of his glory cf. Isaiah 6). Jesus is the visible image of God himself. If you have seen him, you have seen the Father. Not because he is the Father, but because he is the image of the Father, the same in substance and being but differing in personhood only. He lived a perfect life, healing people physically and spiritually. Jesus functions as an extreme example for all believers to emulate in his lived life (otherwise, Jesus could have died as an infant). Jesus will rule and reign as king on David's throne, because as God he is the rightful ruler (showing that even Israel's theocracy and subsequent theocratic monarchy were insufficient when compared to rule by God himself, physically present).
 
8. Does God exist in a triune specifically for humans, so that the whole Jesus thingy could happen? Why is God "tailored" to fit our needs (i.e. the whole lamb/scapegoat thing)? 
 
        No it would not be for humans. God's triunity is part of his nature. The Christian view of God is that he is a logically necessary being, which means that he was always triune and his triunity could not fail to be! So rather than God being tailored to humans, we may instead view humans being tailored to fit God! He did, after all, choose to create man knowing exactly how he would act.
 
9. Is life on earth a punishment? A Christian told me it was "to develop a loving relationship with God", but the creation story doesn't make it sound that way.
 
        I could see how many people could view it this way. The poor, the hungry, the abused, the diseased, the beaten and downtrodden of the world. But this is more of an Eastern outlook than a Christian one. Life on earth, originally, was for man to glorify God by being in a relationship with him. After the Fall of Adam and Eve, the main goal remained the same, but the way of getting there involved the plan of redemption. Why was this necessary? A perfect and holy God cannot abide in fellowship with sin, no matter how much he wants to (for then he is not perfectly just). But if that is the case, then every person must die in their sins and be punished. However, God is also all-loving, and this omnibenevolence cannot come at the expense of justice. So Jesus came, God in the flesh, as a man. As a man, he could represent man in the same way Adam represented mankind in sin. Because Jesus was perfect and sinless, his death and resurrection paid for and guaranteed salvation for all of those who would believe it and ask for their sins to be forgiven. Why belief? Because there is nothing that can be done. It is eminently logical: once an action is done, it cannot be undone. This is why we can never pay for our sins; we can never undo that which we did, otherwise we would not have done it! Jesus died for my sins. He died for your sins. You can be saved. It's not easy; for what I am asking you to believe is not easy. I'm not saying all of your problems will go away. But you will be reconciled to God, something that money cannot buy, and no other worldview can offer in direct comparison. The idea of Christian salvation is not merely reward or avoidance of punishment, but the knowledge of God himself. That is not meant in a New Agey-sense, but rather just in the sense of a deep love and respect. If you believe that Jesus Christ was who he said he was, lived a perfect life, died for your sins, and was resurrected the third day, and you confess that to him and ask him for forgiveness, you will have it. You will be saved.
 
10. If God loves His son so much, why didn't He have more? Why stop at one, I mean? (My parents had five, haha.) And how can the father and the son exist from the same moment in time? I mean, logically speaking, don't kids come after their parents?
 
        Interesting that you should ask this, given my most recent answer! :) When someone is saved, he is referred to as a son (or "child") of God (John 1:12)! Indeed, the NT says Christ was meant as a son to be "firstborn among many brethren." As to the second part of your question, God is viewed as a logically necessary being, so neither of them "began to exist" as it were. Rather, they have always been. This can make a huge difference. Also, it is only empirical evidence that suggests a parent-child relationship is differentiated in time. Rather, I think that time is an incidental feature. It is also important to reiterate that the Father-Son relationship between God the Father and Jesus is just that; a relationship of persons sharing their essence in how they relate to each other (this is also the reason the Holy Spirit is not a Son; it is all in the functions of the person, not in inherent nature). This is a very complex topic and I don't want to confuse you, but the simple answer is that the relationship is not causal, but functional (i.e., "you do this, I do that, but we're both equal").
 
Finally, in reference to the kalam (an Islamic argument you know!), the first cause must be personal because we have specific characteristics. It must be very powerful, timeless, and immaterial. While abstract objects can be timeless and immaterial, they cannot cause anything (that is exactly what it means to be abstract; not able to affect changes in the actual world!). It cannot be some physical process, for then it would not be immaterial (and arguably not timeless). The only thing remaining is a personal force. But this person would just be the standard, traditional, definiton of God! I love the kalam in its simplicity.
 
I hope I have answered these questions for you, and I hope I have been clear. Any lack of clarity is unintended by me, is my fault, and is likely a result of my wanting to answer adequately and completely these questions to the best of my ability.
 
God Bless,
 
Randy